Another Week in the Planetary Crisis, April 21, 2013

(featured image is the effect of Australia’s summer heatwave on Melbourne’s historical record, source)

Logging the Onset of The Bottleneck Years

This weekly posting is brought to you courtesy of H. E. Taylor. Happy reading, I hope you enjoy this week’s Global Warming news roundup


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Logging the Onset of The Bottleneck Years

April 21, 2013


 

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No matter how dark things seem, there are always bad jokes:


Low Key Plug

 

My first novel Water was published in Canada May, 2007. The American release was in October. An Introductionto the novel is available, along with the Unpublished Forewordand the Launch Talk(which includes some quotations), An overview of my writing is available here.

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P.S. Recent postings can be found in the week archive and the ancient postings can be accessed here, which should open to this.

I notice moyhu has set up a monster index to old AWoGWN on AFTIC.


“The problem that faces our societies is that we have developed industries and policies that were appropriate at a certain moment, but now start to reduce human welfare, like for example the oil and car industry. Their political and financial power is so great and they can prevent change. It is my expectation that they will succeed. This means that we are going to evolve through crisis, not through proactive change.” –Dennis Meadows

233 thoughts on “Another Week in the Planetary Crisis, April 21, 2013

  1. Freddy,

    Obviously the climate is much more complex than the “scientists” are willing to admit. Which makes it quite difficult to to determine what needs to be solved or to formulate real solutions.

    There is a world to convince, and so far, no one is buying.

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  2. What are we agreeing on?

    That your asinine demand #194 was complete moaning-minnie bullshit?

    When was that ever in contention?

    But it does appear that we DO agree that you are denying the basic evidence for AGW in your posts 147, 44, 37, 5 and 1.

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  3. Obviously Pauline doesn’t know what the scientists know, but presumes to do so because he doesn’t like the conclusions.

    Typical moron.

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  4. Freedy, if there’s no such thing as global temperature. then why have you been claiming that it’s cooling?

    How can pauline claim that there’s been no change in global temperature for the past X years if there’s no such thing?

    Incoherent ravings of the lunatic fringe’s lunatics is the only explanation for yours and pauline’s “efforts” here.

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  5. wowtroll, WHERE IS THE DEFINITION OF “GLOBAL TEMPERATURE”?

    your answer was as always complete bullshit, pure nonsense.

    your task is to quote a source with a generally accepted definiton of the “GLOBAL TEMPERATURE”

    if you don’t know one or can’t find one, than just admit this or shut up, you idiot

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  6. wowtroll, because IT IS a scandal that “GLOBAL TEMPERATURE” is nowhere reliably defined.

    are you intelligent enough to understand why this is a scientific scandal?

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  7. So…you’ve found a science paper that uses a term that has an assumed meaning, or is not defined?

    I assume that’s what you’re on about, “freddy”, so why don’t you write to the journal’s editor and get your comment published?

    Alternatively, if you are simply full of shit, keep bleating your inanities here.

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  8. craigtroll, wowtroll: so you hear from me for the first time in your life about “GLOBAL TEMPERATURE” and ask me were i have found such a strange term? hahaha

    can it really be that idiotic climate church pupils like you have never heard talking somebody about “GLOBAL TEMPERATURE”???

    ?

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  9. Hardly.

    It is not obvious to me why you

    Yes, you deny you deny. You deny evidence, deny maths, deny stats and deny anything that gets in the way of your ideology, pauline.

    VERY simple example: you deny the evidence of the last 150+ years of global temperature trends.

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  10. so you hear from me for the first time in your life about “GLOBAL TEMPERATURE”

    Nope, freedy, I’ve heard about it long ago.

    I know how it’s calculated and I know the meaning of global temperature.

    However, YOU do not. Neither does Pauline.

    Yet this has not stopped you or them from claiming that it’s cooling or flat.

    You’ve yet to explain how you manage to make claims about GLOBAL TEMPERATURE when you don’t know what it means.

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  11. wow: “I know how it’s calculated and I know the meaning of global temperature”

    would you mind to graciously inform the public of

    a) what the “GLOBAL TEMPERATURE” is

    b) how the “GLOBAL TEMPERATURE” is calculated

    c) from where you have your secrect wisdom (references please)

    thank you!

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  12. a quick search by a non-expert found this,

    https://www2.ucar.edu/climate/faq/what-average-global-temperature-now

    . . . there are several different techniques for coming up with a global average, depending on how one accounts for temperatures above the data-sparse oceans and other poorly sampled regions.

    Since there is no universally accepted definition for Earth’s average temperature, several different groups around the world use slightly different methods for tracking the global average over time, including:

    NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies

    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/

    NOAA National Climatic Data Center

    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cmb-faq/anomalies.php

    UK Met Office Hadley Centre

    http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/monitoring/climate/surface-temperature

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  13. Freedy, only AFTER you’ve answered mine. I asked the question first, after all.

    Since YOU claim there is no such thing, how have you managed to make several claims about global temperature?

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  14. odd conclusion,

    which part pertains to or conflicts with

    “I am in agreement with the last 150 years temperature record and the relevance of 1860.”

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  15. The statement you made in #147 conflicts with that newer statement.

    You can pop back up and read it if you can’t remember.

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  16. I did re re-read.

    i assumed you felt there was a conflict (which I don’t see).

    If you don’t care to continue, just advise.

    thanks,

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  17. Yes, well if you’re going to say “I don’t see” when you’re nose is pointed right at it, then that itself is evidence of what you’re in denial of.

    Well done.

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  18. hahahaha, the “GLOBAL TEMPERATURE”, the basis of all warming arguments since 30 years, is not reliably defined, haha haha haha haha haha haha haha

    this is the final proof that all warming scoundrels (wow, etc.) are plain idiots intentionally cheating decent citizens

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  19. Yep, idiots with PhDs who’ve published thousands of papers that explain exactly how and why global warming is occurring are no match for “freddy”, who can’t even figure out how to punctuate his sentences correctly.

    Intellect envy.

    They *know* they are stupid, and they resent us for it.

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  20. So despite believing there is no such thing as GLOBAL TEMPERATURE, freedy has claimed many things about the global temperature.

    Yet doesn’t know how he can justify it.

    Hell, even Pauline found several definitions of it, but freedy doesn’t read too good if it doesn’t support his broken ideology.

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  21. it’s interesting to watch how climate hysterics resist to admit that they don’t know what “GLOBAL TEMPERATURE” is!

    is really nobody out there in the climate alarmism church who dares to try a definition of “GLOBAL TEMPERATURE”???

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  22. I don’t refuse to say.

    I refuse to let you derail the conversation.

    How come you’ve made so many claims about something you’ve had absolutely no idea how it was defined?

    You flail around and refuse to answer this question.

    If you want to know what GLOBAL TEMPERATURE is, answer that question first.

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  23. As I’ve pointed out in the other thread, “freddy”, the IPCC knows what a “global temperature” is, as do myself and Wow, and anybody else with enough brains to actually do a bit of research into topics we may choose to discuss with others.

    You, on the other hand, with your woefully inadequate intellect and severely limited access to knowledge, have made all sorts of assertions about “global temperature”, AND have admitted you don’t even know what it is.

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